Ahhhhhhh.

Jun. 17th, 2002 01:00 pm
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Orginally meant for [livejournal.com profile] nudists, but what the hay.

Saturday was too busy to make it to Lupin during the day, but we did head down in the evening for the dance.



While it technically had the theme "Seasonal Sensations," we were there for the DJs, Broadway Joe and Anita. They play a mix of pop and rock danceable music from the 60s to current, with a heavy dose of MoTown. Right up our alley in terms of musical preference.

After lots of work during the day I didn't expect to have a lot of energy for dancing. I was wrong. I was up there shaking my naked booty for most of the evening. We often finished a song with "Wanna break? Yeah." music starts "But we gotta dance to this one."

Backtracking a little. We arrived before the music started, so we took a soak in the hottub, where we had a nice conversation with some instructors from the Human Awareness Institute seminar that was being held at Lupin last weekend. I learned some good stuff to take back to the [livejournal.com profile] sextips community for which I'm one of the moderators.

Having the seminar at Lupin though, meant there was a higher the usual number of folks at the dance who were clothed. None seemed bothered by all the naked folks (I supposed they would have bailed right away, if they were.) but some were trying really hard not to stare and some looked eager to join, but not quite ready to disrobe.

However as the evening progressed, we noticed that the clothing was slowly disappearing. The women lost their tops before the guys took off their shirts. With some transitioning through dancing while wearing regular underwear.

I hope they enjoyed their Nudist experience and will return again on their own.

I also hope none of them were given the wrong ideas by the 2-3 women wearing tacky lingerie. I've nothing against dressing up or down at a park, resort, club, beach, etc. I sometimes wear a parero (sp?) wrap myself, so I understand the need to sometimes coverup* or the want to decorate yourself**, but please have a little taste in your choice of decoration. What is it with the ugly teddies, bustier (sp?), thigh high fishnets, etc?

{{{oops, sorry for the mini rant}}}


* Sometimes I get self-conscious or get turned on dancing and need to hide myself.

** My Lady loves to swirl her skirts when dancing. She grabbed at her non-existent skirt several times on Sat.

Date: 2002-06-17 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bfly.livejournal.com
That whole clothed-among-nudity thing is an interesting phenomenon. The first time I went skinny-dipping at the Austin cavers' swimmin' hole I wore a suit because I didn't know many people there and I just wasn't sure how it would go. Shed it in a hurry, because it really felt weird to be wearing clothes when everybody else was naked. <laugh> I felt like people were staring ;D

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Date: 2002-06-17 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johno.livejournal.com
The most attention I ever saw paid to anyone at a club, was when 2 teens came down from the upper deck wearing bikinis. Evey eye was on them.

When they came down later, sans bikinis, to swim, no one looked at them twice. (Ok, Ok, they were still nice looking, so we still looked, but no one stared.)

But to you point, some folks just can't get past their conditioning. Even when surounded with naked folks, making them the odd one out.

Date: 2002-06-17 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mactavish.livejournal.com
I grew up skinnydipping. In context, I don't think twice about it. Maybe that's because I've been doing it for about 35 years, it's just not novel.

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Date: 2002-06-17 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johno.livejournal.com
I've long been a house nudist. Except for when visiting relatives, I've slept in the nude since my teens. I've visited CO beaches off and on for 15 years now.

However, the longer we enjoy our own pool nude and the more we go to Lupin, the less and less willing (and happy) I am to wear anything while swimming.

It's the classic my suit is wet and clammy coming back from the hotel and sandy if coming from a regular beach. Yuch!! Why bother.

Date: 2002-06-17 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mactavish.livejournal.com
I prefer bathing suits on sandy beaches because they keep sand out of my coochie, which is delicate like that.

I often sleep in something, partially because I kick covers around and get chilly, and partially because I get scared that the Hayward Fault will chase me out of my house naked on a cold evening.

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Date: 2002-06-17 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johno.livejournal.com
Ever since we were in a hotel 12 miles from the Northridge quake, I KNOW where my clothes are.

Date: 2002-06-17 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wldrose.livejournal.com
Humm I once had to deal with the teen thing. I was at Pensic and there is a clothing optional swimming hole, I was down there and found one of the daughters of my friend (kid was 15-16) expressly against there parents wishes if not direct orders. After explaining to her that I was now in a dilemma (promised I would not bring it up would not lie if asked) I explained about wearing a suit to a nude swimming hole. That the covered flesh stands out so much more that it cause people to stare.

I got the kid to take off her glasses and tell me what she saw. Well it was all a sea of pink/tan/brown except for the spots of color that were bathing suits. I know I made my point when the next time she showed up she was topless and had a beige bikini bottom on.


Ash

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Date: 2002-06-17 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johno.livejournal.com
That's a interesting way to get someone to look at it.

And to drift off topic a little. I agree with your solution (reminder, don't ask, don't tell attitude to parents), but how ow did you deal with the knowing she was violating parental rules a 2nd time?


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Date: 2002-06-17 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wldrose.livejournal.com
"And to drift off topic a little. I agree with your solution (reminder, don't ask, don't tell attitude to parents)"

Well it was more of a dont put me in to a state were your parents will talk to me about this because I will not lie to them.

"but how ow did you deal with the knowing she was violating parental rules a 2nd time?"

Kinda hard one will answer in two parts

what happend was they found out anyway and I was straight with them. The young lady said well now you know and I am going to do this. She was a level headed and responsable kid and a few days later she told them she was going there. In the end they agreed to disagree and if there was any cause for complaint she would be tared and feathered.

In theory: well its a tough thing whos trust do you violate. I have for the most part had an Aunty Ashee law wich is if you act like a grown up I will treat you as one. I try to let my friends and there kids know about my dont ask dont tell mentaily, with the caviat that if in my openion there is any danger all bets are off. (I wouldnt rat a kid out for drinking I would for driving after it) Or if there is something the Parents speficely told me about, but I make sure the kid knows whats up then.

Kids must break rules to grow up, and as there friends we need to relise that and respect it but guidance with out judgment is a hard line to walk.

Ash

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Date: 2002-06-17 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johno.livejournal.com
Thanks.

We try for that same relationship with our younger friends. I had a active parental role with some of them, but as they grew older I conciously tried to convert into a big brother/uncle type of relationship.

Offering support and guidence if needed, only laughing ocassionally at their antics and never telling unless there is danger involved. Though I did rat out one kid for smoking.

Date: 2002-06-17 11:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kshandra
it really felt weird to be wearing clothes when everybody else was naked.

[livejournal.com profile] dafydd and I went to Kiva for the first time this weekend (about which more in a proper journal entry when I have time - I'm supposed to be getting up for work in four hours!), and spent a fair amount of time discussing "Do we or don't we?" before we got there. We wound up wearing our suits for the drive there, but peeled off almost immediately. We were there with people we knew, which helped, and as you noted, I would have been far more self-conscious about being the only one there wearing anything.

And the good news is I hardly burned at all. ;-

Date: 2002-06-18 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bfly.livejournal.com
Ah, Kiva is a lovely place. I felt pretty safe being naked there. The one time I visited Austin's famous Hippie Hollow was a different story... we all got naked but we didn't stay long and I never went back. Amazing what a difference the vibe in a place makes to one's comfort level. If you ever get out NM way I'll take you to Ten Thousand Waves; they responded to a few complaints about their communal tub area by building a women's tub that is a lovely, safe, peaceful place to hang out and absorb some quiet.

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