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The Kern County Clerk Stops Performing ANY weddings.

Ms Barnett claims it is due to budgetary and security concerns around the upcoming elections, that something had to give budget wise. Wedding were the thing to had to go. {cough cough} The timing was a just a coincidence, as is the fact that her expected legal issues will be paid for by a conservative "defense of marriage" group.

Date: 2008-06-15 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karisu-sama.livejournal.com
Yes, I've heard of this woman's BS before.

Yeah, fucking right we "believe her" - *snort*.

I suppose to be properly consistent with her religious beliefs, when she deems it possible to perform weddings at all, she should absolutely refuse to perform any weddings between any couples who are not religious, or for whom children are not possible or not intended. (However, to be properly consistent with her job, she should not impose her beliefs upon the job requirements, hence the need for her trumped-up "excuse"........)

Date: 2008-06-15 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judifilksign.livejournal.com
One hopes someone will quickly file a lawsuit, so that Ms. Barnett may properly go down in flames.

It strikes me that something similar happened when the right to life conservatives encouraged pharmacists to refuse to dispense birth control.

I am disgusted at the idea that people try again and again to delay enforcement of the law, until they can rally up enough discontent to try to overturn laws they don't like.

I hope that years from now, we will look back on episodes like these and do the same sort of collective "cringe" that we do when we look at the Jim Crow laws of the South, and wonder at how anyone could be so predjudiced.

Pardon me...

Date: 2008-06-15 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] discodj.livejournal.com
Equality is equality. No matter how crappy, stupid, pig-headed or religiously based (bIased?) this may be (and don't get me wrong it IS), as long as she treats all parties equal, then there shouldn't be a problem.

Quoting from an LATimes article... "Shannon Price Minter, legal director of the National Center for Lesbian Rights, said he didn't have a problem with Barnett's decision as long as she applied it evenly."

The issue is when you're NOT being treated equal.

Re: Pardon me...

Date: 2008-06-15 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judifilksign.livejournal.com
Yet, because every other county courthouse provides this legal service, then every couple who wishes to marry, straight or gay, is being deprived. Since this is a government agency, she doesn't get to choose which goverment services to be provided to the people.

It is also a civil rights issue, because it within that county, it leaves only religious avenues available to obtain the legislated civil advantages of marriage.

This is exactly equivalent to a county welfare office of a state agency deciding not to provide welfare benefits to anyone, so that they do not have to provide them to a racial minority (blacks, Hispanic, American Indians.) Equal, but still wrong.

Re: Pardon me...

Date: 2008-06-16 12:14 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] howeird
Not in this case. The services her department provides are mandated by local law, she does not have the option to not perform them unless she chooses to quit her job. She does not have to perform weddings, that's not in her mandate, but she is required to issue licenses.

Date: 2008-06-15 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmjwell.livejournal.com
Thee was a story in the Chron yesterday about Glenn County and the clerk said that they will issue the licenses, but not perform weddings (because they've never performed weddings) and that the staffers were informed to do their duty.

I have to send that clerk a thank you note.

Date: 2008-06-15 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] targeter.livejournal.com
That was the one where it mentioned that some of the clerks had mentioned that their personal religious beliefs opposed same-sex marriage and were told not to let it get in the way of doing their jobs? That gave me a warm, fuzzy feeling.

Date: 2008-06-15 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drangnon.livejournal.com
actually that's yet another move in the direction I'd like to see.

I don't want the government to be performing ceremonies anyone connects the word "sanctity" to, any more than I want school prayer or politicizing from a pulpit. there's more to separation of church and state than just endlessly objecting to having a brief prayer at the beginning of state-sponsored events.

Date: 2008-06-16 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scendan.livejournal.com
A coincidence?

*eyeroll*

Date: 2008-06-19 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caffiene-fiend.livejournal.com
This from Kern county, the only county in Calfornia in which it is reasonably easy to obtain a concealed weapons permit, (i.e. Just get the personal liability insurance, pass a brief psych evaluation and range qualification, pay the reasonable fee and you're packin' heat. No need to furnish restraining orders, threatening letters, or proof that you carry gobs of money all the time and 'NEED' a permit. No need for a thinly disguised bribe to the County Sheriff, either.)

I'd expect this sort of decision from such an area. I'm not surprised in the least.

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